Other Voices: A Discussion with Mark Ragan, CEO of Ragan Communications

 

I have been fortunate enough to get to know Mark Ragan more closely during the past few years. Mark, as you may know, is CEO of Lawrence Ragan Communications and one of the leading figures in the public relations industry. For more than 30 years, the company has been the leading publisher of corporate communications, public relations, and leadership development newsletters and information to the industry. When The Ragan Report launched in 1970, the company made the leap ahead of the industry to position professional communicators as business leaders. Today, the Ragan brand now includes more than 16 targeted newsletters, MyRagan.com, PR Daily, HealthCare News and HR Communicator. In addition, Ragan produces several communications conferences, workshops, and senior-level forums. If you’re on Twitter you probably already know and follow @MarkRaganCEO. Here are the highlights of our discussion.

What is the mission of Ragan and what do you and your team hope to achieve?

We want our customers to think of us whenever they need a question answered or a problem solved.  We want to become their top information source for news, information and practical, real-world advice. But we also want them to think of us as in indispensable resource for training. Need to learn more about social media strategies? Come to us.  Want in-depth analysis of IBM’s new approach to content curation? You’ll find it in our archives.  Looking for staff training on social media policies, listen to our webinar with Shel Holtz.

To support this mission, we’ve adapted the content curation model.  This means we produce original content, but we also ‘curate’ content about PR, social media and internal communications from around the globe.

We launched this new model with the redesign of Ragan.com last year and the re-launch of PR Daily last February (Disclosure: I am a contributor to PR Daily). The results have been overwhelmingly good.  Traffic to Ragan.com has doubled to 160,000 visits a month. PR Daily’s traffic has gone from 40,000 to 250,000 for the North American edition.  PR Daily Europe is growing, but we’re new to this market, so we’re content with our average of 15,000 visitors each month.

This summer, we’ll introduce the new redesign of HR Communications News and Health Care Communications News. Both sites will be designed off the early success of Ragan.com and PR Daily. In the fall, we’ll be launching a new Brand Journalism news site.

Ragan has been around since 1970 when your father launched The Ragan Report. We’ve come a long way as an industry since then. Where do you see the industry headed? Are there trends we need to watch?

The smartest companies are turning their organizations into media outlets. No longer content to wait for traditional media to write about them, these companies are providing news and information about their markets directly to consumers. American Express, IBM, Best Buy, The Mayo Clinic, Southwest Airlines—this is just a short list of companies that have begun to practice what is increasingly being called ‘brand journalism.’ Many of them are scooping up reporters from traditional media and building news sites around their brands. Like Ragan, they too are using the content curation model of mixing original content with aggregated content from bloggers, traditional media and other online sources.

On the internal side of the business, companies will continue to rely increasingly on user generated content produced in internal, collaborative networks, so-called Facebook-type sites behind the firewall. The smartest among them are building mobile platforms so employees can access their Intranets from home or while on the road.

You are a huge advocate for social media. Why has it become so important to the public relations industry?

Social networks allow PR pros to deliver messages directly to consumers. They provide an alternative to the classic ‘beg-the-media-to-write-about-us’ strategy.

Why wait for someone to pick up our news release when we can cover and deliver our news through social channels and online sources?  A great example of this occurred this week when an airplane slid off a runway at Midway Airport in Chicago. Southwest’s PR team covered its own story by getting making sure that consumers got information from its NutsaboutSouthwest blog first. Time will tell if companies can build credibility with this approach. To succeed, brand journalism must be honest and transparent. If it isn’t social media will turn against the organization and ‘out it’ for pushing false information or withholding key facts.

You’ve been busy at Ragan Communications the past year — global events, a new website, additional staff — what’s been the most exciting project for you and your team?

Watching our newly designed news sites take off and become increasingly the top sources for corporate communications news. PR Daily is now the #1 news site for PR pros in North America, though few people realize it. Any check of any web traffic monitoring site proves it out. This has been very rewarding for our editorial team. They’ve worked hard at making Ragan.com and PR Daily thorough, entertaining and conversational.

On the conference side of our business, we’re the most proud of the trust placed in us by the two-dozen companies that now host our events. Microsoft, Southwest Airlines, SAS, ConEd, Cisco, SWIFT in Brussels, The Mayo Clinic, NASDAQ,  and many others.  Their confidence in our events team, and their trust in our product, has helped us reach our goal of providing the best conferences in the industry.

We focus on B2B topics here on this blog. When you talk with communicators what do you think are the major differences between those in B2C and those in B2B?

B2B communicators have a tougher time proving the value of social media. If you’re a company making steel bolts, it’s hard to post big numbers on your Facebook and Twitter pages, and it’s an unfortunate fact of life that the C-suite continues to believe the big numbers equate with social media success.  And yet, B2B communicators actually stand to gain more from social media and content curation. They can build content-rich sites that quickly establish them as leaders in their markets.  The smaller the niche, the bigger the chance that you’ll dominate the news and conversational markets in your industry.

B2B social media has really come into full swing in the past year and companies are doing some interesting things. What are your B2B customers telling you their biggest challenge is when it comes to social media?

Getting budgets approved that divert advertising dollars from traditional media to social media and content marketing programs. However, this is changing rapidly. I am working with a hospital system now that may invest up to $2 million in building its own news and information site—a content site that is integrated into social media and traditional news sources.

You’ve been a big fan of the Flip cam and of course Cisco’s recent announcement must have been a surprise. But let’s be honest, video certainly isn’t going away. Where do you see the role of video in the enterprise?

The Flip is certainly not going away.  Much has been made of Cisco’s fear that smart phones will replace pocket cameras. This may be true with teenagers, Moms and other consumers, but you won’t see internal communicators shooting roving reporter features with their iPhones.  Flip’s competitors—like the far superior Kodak Zi8—will continue to rack up big sales in the corporate communications industry, as will other cam corders designed for higher quality videos.

I also believe that videos will become shorter as editors and producers embrace the reality that people want to ‘snack’ on information. We’ll get to a point—if we haven’t already—where a 90-second video is almost too long.

As for enterprise video, sometimes known as YouTube behind the firewall,  this trend will continue to grow. I met a marketing director at a small, 30-employee firm who is now required to post 60-second video summaries of meetings she attended so others could get briefed on important news. In other organizations, companies are mounting cameras on computers and asking employees to share their expertise with others by posting short videos on ideas and news. Skype and other voice-over-Internet services will continue to be used to bring far-flung employees into global conferences and internal communication summits. And virtual conferences, like the one I participated in at SAS two years ago, will all make use of improvements in worldwide video streaming.

Most people in the PR industry know you via your work life and Twitter feed. So how does Mark Ragan unwind and relax from a busy day in the office?

Well, it helps to have a four-year-old.   We live in a television-free house where the only computer is locked away in my basement office. I try to put my online life away when I arrive at home, but it’s difficult. I am the CEO of a media company in a world that no longer provides convenient news cycles.  What I have done is hire more people, including my first social media editor. She has helped take a huge load off my back by creating our first LinkedIn  communities and keeping up with trends, new tools and strategies. And, of course, large pints of ale  always help. But you would know that, Allan.

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Social Media for Financial Communicators

Last week the exchange co-sponsored the Ragan Communications Social Media for Financial Communicators event with our business partner NASDAQ OMX. You can review the entire event on the Facebook page created by Ragan. I was encouraged by the content of this event since it was so narrowly defined for financial communications – and I think a vertical industry focus is certainly the next big phase in social media. And even though the financial services industry is heavily regulated, there were many great examples of companies using various platforms. ragan conf

If you attended this event you came away thinking, “There really are few reasons to not be doing social media.” Kudos to Mark Ragan and his great staff for putting this event together. I wasn’t able to attend every session but here are my reactions from the panels I did watch.

Be the brand: I have always said that social media at the exchange was never a silver bullet. I think companies that take the approach that social media can “save” their brand are misguided. It must fit within your existing brand and support various initiatives.  Steve O’Halloran from ING Direct discussed this during his presentation. He used many real world examples of what ING Direct has done with social media to reemphasize all of the qualities that make the bank unique, fun and a leader in its category (NOTE: I am not currently an ING Direct customer). In particular, Steve showed how they are really helping customers online to learn more about saving money and promote financial advocacy. And even though ING Direct does not have bank branches they do have some of the best cafes to visit. What are you doing to reinforce your brand in social media?

Social media for investor relations is coming…are you ready?: I was pleased to hear from Phil Pearlman at StockTwits that they are soon launching an investor relations tool on their site. We’ve talked about StockTwits before on B2B Voices as an investor relations tool and this is positive news. While this isn’t live yet I’m sure given the focus of the team at StockTwits that this will be a great application and take their offering to another level. If you have yet to visit StockTwits you should check it out — especially if you work for a publicly traded company. What I like most about the potential of this tool is the ability for public relations and investor relations to collaborate more online using social media. Ironically, NIRI’s annual conference took place a few weeks ago and from people I know who attended the discussion around social media was a footnote. This could be a great opportunity for you to work with your finance team and play a key role in educating your C-suite about social media.

And now  word from the journalists. A panel of financial journalists — Felix Salmon, Reuters; Stacey-Marie Ismael, FT Alphaville; Connell McShane, FOX Business — answered questions about their use of social media. I was lucky enough to sit on the panel representing the interests of communicators. Felix blogged about the conference and his thoughts on why companies should be using Twitter. One of the key takeaways for me about the panel is that they are all connected to and use Twitter daily — not so much as a broadcast medium but for a way to monitor trends/issues and meet new people (potential sources). I commented, and I think the panel agreed, that Twitter really is not the platform to pitch reporters, but because of its simplicity and real-time information sharing it’s the place to build trust and relationships with reporters.

Enthusiasm. While I didn’t hear any breaking news from Demetrios Skalkotos of NASDAQ OMX about using social media what I did takeaway is that enthusiasm matters. That’s not to take any credibility away from him or NASDAQ OMX — he and the company know what they’re doing in social media. But it was the enthusiasm from Demetrios that really stood out to me and if you’ve ever seen him speak you know what I’m talking about. It’s this kind of passion for our work that makes a difference — whether it’s social media, advertising, writing, design or video production. His presentation was the perfect way to end the two-day event since he left all of us feeling as if we could go back to our job and make things happen. That’s just the type of leadership you need, especially when you are pursing something so new and rapidly changing as social media.

I was also fortunate to present about CME group with my colleague Michael Shore and a copy of our presentation can be found over on SlideShare. If you happened to attend the event what was your takeaway? Share your thoughts about the conference here or if you didn’t attend let us know your reaction to some of my thoughts above.

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Mingling in Seattle with Ragan

Last week I attended and spoke at the 2009 Ragan Employee Communications, PR and Social Media Summit in Redmond, Washington, at Microsoft’s campus. I continue to be impressed with the events produced by Mark Ragan (@MarkRaganCEO) and his team as they not only secured a world class venue, but the topics continue to be timely (Disclosure: We’re hosting two Ragan events at the exchange in Chicago next month, so if you plan to attend let me know.).

I’ve been asked by various people since last week to summarize the event and I can summarize it with one word: Mingle. Now, I don’t mean mingling in the network, business card trading sense of the word — I’ll get to that as well — but from a new technology coming from Microsoft to address social networks internally. How new is this offering from Microsoft? Try to Google (or Bing) Microsoft Mingle and see what you find. We were lucky enough to have Frank Shaw (@FXShaw), vice president of corporate communications, Microsoft, kick off the conference and demonstrate Mingle. So what is Mingle and why should you care? Seeing and reading about it are two different things, but here’s a quick rundown:

  • Mingle is a collaboration initiative that will allow for a one-stop network for employees to come together.
  • Essentially, Mingle is an organization’s internal Twitter,where employees can tag or annotate internal *and* external URLs & share with other employees.
  • Mingle can allow for groups to be created among empmloyees based on key words or topics discussed in the live stream, which in turn can connect employees from various locations/departments to collaborate better.
  • Like Twitter and other microblogging tools, Mingle allows employees to move conversations from e-mail to a secure internal community (one of the key distinctions as services like Yammer run outside an organization’s firewall). 
  • Microsoft plans to build more awareness and use of Mingle internally through existing resources like Sharepoint.

Shaw summarized the purpose of developming a tool like Mingle by stating that Microsoft wanted to know where their employees are getting information and then optimizing that information across all employees. What struck me as the obvious throughout the demonstration of Mingle is the fact that Microsoft is getting ready to unleash social media for the masses, which means there will likely be changes to tools such as Outlook, SharePoint, PowerPoint, Excel and other products. When this happens it will be hard for employees to ignore the changes, and it will bring even further changes to how enterprise communicate with employees. How would your organization change if employees communicated more in real time and depended less on email? How will employee communications and human resources have to adapt to these changes? I would suggest you pay attention to Mingle as Microsoft discusses this platform more publicly.

In addition to the Mingle platform I was able to mingle in real time with some pretty amazing people, including:

 Shauna Causey (@ShaunaCausey) — One of the added benefits of attending this event was the opportunity to spend time with Shauna and she’s a professional I admire and look to for ideas. You should too. I connected with Shauna several months ago via Twitter and we immediately bonded. She’s a very sharp communicator who has taken on several cause-related initiatives in addition to her job with Comcast.

 

Finally meeting face to face and mingling with Shauna Causey (@shaunacausey) Finally meeting face to face and mingling with Shauna Causey.

 

Jeff Willinger (@JWillie) and Charee Klimek ( @ChareeKlimek) — I met both Jeff and Charee via the Chicago Social Media Club earlier this year and the three of us seem to show up everywhere together. One of Jeff’s areas of expertise lies in SharePoint, so I know he was doing some serious networking on the Microsoft Campus. Charee is a consultant involved in helping organizations understand how to leverage social networking with employees, which means Mingle has some serious potential for her business. 

 

Charee Klimeck and Jeff Willinger -- a Windy City connection in Seattle. Charee Klimek and Jeff Willinger — a Windy City connection in Seattle.

 

Tony Edwards (@TraderSmarts) — Tony is an independent trader who lives in Seattle and he and I were introduced only a few weeks ago randomly on Twitter. One of the tremendous benefits of using Twitter at the exchange (@CMEGroup) is meeting with so many customers face to face. I often talk about using social media as way to build a fan base of supporters who can support your oganization. Meeting with Tony and learning not just about how and what he trades, but getting to know him as a person, further helps to show the value of social media in a B2B environment. By the way, here was Tony’s tweet last Friday.

Tac Anderson (@tacanderson) and Nathan Misner (@NathanMisner) – Their presentation on influence was straightforward and filled with great ideas. You can view their presentation here.  I was able to spend some time with them before and after their presenation and they are a must follow if you are interested in the power of storytelling and engagement as public relations strategies. They also unveiled Twendz as a social monitoring tool that will track frequency, reach and the influence of people online.

There were many more conversations with the likes of Jeramie McPeek (@Sunswebaster), Shannon Paul (@ShannonPaul) and of course Mark Ragan. If you attended the conference what did you think about Mingle? If you are involved in employee communications how are you managing the change brought about internally by social media? Let us know your thoughts.

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